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This thread is really interesting to follow. The development in rebel resistance is interesting to follow. It’s literally jungle warfare and it’s quite different to what we see in ME, Ukraine.

Does the rebels even have artillery ? Or anything heavy hitting ?
 

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This thread is really interesting to follow. The development in rebel resistance is interesting to follow. It’s literally jungle warfare and it’s quite different to what we see in ME, Ukraine.

Does the rebels even have artillery ? Or anything heavy hitting ?

I think they have acquired some left over by retreating and surrendering Tatmadaw.
 

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I think they have acquired some left over by retreating and surrendering Tatmadaw.
I don't recall seeing any pictures of rebels holding onto anything heavy, as it isn't something associated with jungle warfare.
 

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I don't recall seeing any pictures of rebels holding onto anything heavy, as it isn't something associated with jungle warfare.
They are a massive guerrilla force using light infantry tactics any heavy piece of equipment will most likely become a burden with tatmadaw having air superiority. Rebels are focusing on smuggling gear from india or even crowd funding it and making them using crude methods and 3D printing. Rebels have even got HK416s smuggled in so they arent without connections.
 

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I don't recall seeing any pictures of rebels holding onto anything heavy, as it isn't something associated with jungle warfare.

There were some photos, at this point they fighting a hybrid war in between guerilla and conventional warfare. Not entirely jungle centric. The terrian in this region mostly like that anyway.
 

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They are a massive guerrilla force using light infantry tactics any heavy piece of equipment will most likely become a burden with tatmadaw having air superiority. Rebels are focusing on smuggling gear from india or even crowd funding it and making them using crude methods and 3D printing. Rebels have even got HK416s smuggled in so they arent without connections.

I don't think those are original. Likely Chinese copy or made by gunsmiths.
 

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Can anyone from the region explain who is fighting who and what are they fighting for? Who should we support?
 

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Can anyone from the region explain who is fighting who and what are they fighting for? Who should we support?

Various ethnic rebel groups fighting Myanmar Junta since 2021 and has taken control more than 50% of the country. So far ethnic militias are no fighting each other and sometimes are in coordination.

Particular ethnic militia controlling the region bordering BD wants good relationship with BD, at least that's what they are saying. But there is no sustainable good relation without a permanent solution to Rohingya issue. More and more it seems they are no better than Junta when it comes to treating Rohingya. So we don't trust them.

At this stage I don't think we can determine if these rebel groups would turn out any better than Junta if they can totally take over. So, don't bother about supporting anyone. Perhaps @Nilgiri could share his thoughts if he is interested.

Bangladesh obviously neutral, so is India. And Thailand mostly. China is basically running the show, it is understood that without Chinese support rebel gourps wouldn't have come thus far. Whatever happens, Myanmar basically a Chinese proxy at this point.

Once Myanmar used to be security concern for BD, there was a significant border clash in 2001. But now the country is in ruin and doesn't have any ability to effectively threaten us. Not in short to medium term.
 

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Can anyone from the region explain who is fighting who and what are they fighting for? Who should we support?
In western media terms a group of militia from ethnical ones to religious ones fighting Burmese military for all their human rights violations and fighting for their freedom.the part the media omits is that although many of these men are fighting for freedom these miltias arent your typical freedom fighter material one month ago a certain group posted a video of them beheading and flaying surrendered tatmadaw soldiers. They have been posting these gore videos for some time just like what the cartels are doing and to who to support we have the myanmar military a bat shit crazy junta that is gonna do what they did to the rohingya to all the other ethnicities that are in the rebel camp if they win and the rebels who people will naturally lean seeing how the military treats the rohingyas forgetting these militias have a large number of defected myanmarese troops who did the same atrocities against rohingyas and if they win all these militias will turn on each other. There is a reason why nobody is taking sides.
 

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Some 45,000 Rohingya flee amid allegations of beheading, burning in Myanmar​


UN rights chief Volker Turk urges Bangladesh, other countries ‘to provide effective protection’ to the latest refugees.

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Escalating violence in conflict-torn Myanmar’s Rakhine State has forced another 45,000 minority Rohingya to flee, the United Nations warned, amid allegations of beheadings, killings and burnings of property.

Clashes have rocked Rakhine State since the Arakan Army (AA) rebels attacked forces of the ruling military government in November, ending a ceasefire that had largely held since a military coup in 2021. The fighting has caught in the middle the Muslim minority group, long considered outsiders by the majority Buddhist residents, either from the government or the rebel side.


The AA says it is fighting for more autonomy for the ethnic Rakhine population in the state, which is also home to an estimated 600,000 members of the persecuted Rohingya Muslim minority, who have chosen to remain in the country.

More than a million Rohingya have taken shelter in neighbouring Bangladesh after fleeing Rakhine, including hundreds of thousands in 2017 during an earlier crackdown by the military that is now the subject of a United Nations genocide court case.

UN rights office spokeswoman Elizabeth Throssell told reporters in Geneva on Friday that tens of thousands of civilians have been displaced in recent days by the fighting in Buthidaung and Maungdaw townships.

“An estimated 45,000 Rohingya have reportedly fled to an area on the Naf River near the border with Bangladesh, seeking protection,” she said, as she urged the protection of civilians according to international law.

UN rights chief Volker Turk was urging Bangladesh and other countries “to provide effective protection to those seeking it, in line with international law, and to ensure international solidarity with Bangladesh in hosting Rohingya refugees in Myanmar”, she said.

But Al Jazeera’s Tanvir Chowdhury, reporting from Cox’s Bazar in Bangladesh, said that with more than a million Rohingya already in the country, the government has been reluctant to take more, leaving the latest refugees stuck on the Myanmar side of the border.


‘Beheadings’​

James Rodehaver, head of the rights office’s Myanmar team, described the horrifying situation many were fleeing from.

He said his team had received testimonies and seen satellite images, online videos and pictures indicating that Buthidaung town had been “largely burned”.

“We have received information indicating that the burning did start on May 17 … two days after the military had retreated from the town … and the Arakan Army claimed to have taken full control of the village.”

One survivor had described seeing dozens of dead bodies as he fled Buthidaung, while another had said he was among tens of thousands who fled the town only to find themselves blocked by the Arakan Army on the road west towards Maungdaw town.

Other survivors also said AA members had abused them and extorted money from them as they tried to make their way to Rohingya villages south of the town.

In the weeks leading up to the burning of Buthidaung, Rodehaver said the rights office had documented renewed attacks on Rohingya civilians by both the AA and the military in northern Rakhine, including through air strikes.

The team had documented “at least four cases of beheadings”, he said, adding that they had determined with a high level of confidence that those were carried out by the AA.

There have also been previous allegations of Rohingya being used as human shields.

Al Jazeera’s Chowdhury, said the Rohingya were “caught in the middle”.

“They are in a precarious situation,” he said, adding that recent Rohingya refugees who fled Myanmar had told him that both the AA and the military have been trying to recruit them to fight.






It seems there has been a significant escalation recently, news is just coming out.
45000 is a big wave. I think we are gonna have to take them in. Also, exactly what @Jammer is talking about. These AA f**kers are no different. @Isa Khan @Micheal Corleone @yf120 @PutinBro @Bogeyman @Nilgiri @Saithan
 

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Some 45,000 Rohingya flee amid allegations of beheading, burning in Myanmar​


UN rights chief Volker Turk urges Bangladesh, other countries ‘to provide effective protection’ to the latest refugees.

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Escalating violence in conflict-torn Myanmar’s Rakhine State has forced another 45,000 minority Rohingya to flee, the United Nations warned, amid allegations of beheadings, killings and burnings of property.

Clashes have rocked Rakhine State since the Arakan Army (AA) rebels attacked forces of the ruling military government in November, ending a ceasefire that had largely held since a military coup in 2021. The fighting has caught in the middle the Muslim minority group, long considered outsiders by the majority Buddhist residents, either from the government or the rebel side.


The AA says it is fighting for more autonomy for the ethnic Rakhine population in the state, which is also home to an estimated 600,000 members of the persecuted Rohingya Muslim minority, who have chosen to remain in the country.

More than a million Rohingya have taken shelter in neighbouring Bangladesh after fleeing Rakhine, including hundreds of thousands in 2017 during an earlier crackdown by the military that is now the subject of a United Nations genocide court case.

UN rights office spokeswoman Elizabeth Throssell told reporters in Geneva on Friday that tens of thousands of civilians have been displaced in recent days by the fighting in Buthidaung and Maungdaw townships.

“An estimated 45,000 Rohingya have reportedly fled to an area on the Naf River near the border with Bangladesh, seeking protection,” she said, as she urged the protection of civilians according to international law.

UN rights chief Volker Turk was urging Bangladesh and other countries “to provide effective protection to those seeking it, in line with international law, and to ensure international solidarity with Bangladesh in hosting Rohingya refugees in Myanmar”, she said.

But Al Jazeera’s Tanvir Chowdhury, reporting from Cox’s Bazar in Bangladesh, said that with more than a million Rohingya already in the country, the government has been reluctant to take more, leaving the latest refugees stuck on the Myanmar side of the border.


‘Beheadings’​

James Rodehaver, head of the rights office’s Myanmar team, described the horrifying situation many were fleeing from.

He said his team had received testimonies and seen satellite images, online videos and pictures indicating that Buthidaung town had been “largely burned”.

“We have received information indicating that the burning did start on May 17 … two days after the military had retreated from the town … and the Arakan Army claimed to have taken full control of the village.”

One survivor had described seeing dozens of dead bodies as he fled Buthidaung, while another had said he was among tens of thousands who fled the town only to find themselves blocked by the Arakan Army on the road west towards Maungdaw town.

Other survivors also said AA members had abused them and extorted money from them as they tried to make their way to Rohingya villages south of the town.

In the weeks leading up to the burning of Buthidaung, Rodehaver said the rights office had documented renewed attacks on Rohingya civilians by both the AA and the military in northern Rakhine, including through air strikes.

The team had documented “at least four cases of beheadings”, he said, adding that they had determined with a high level of confidence that those were carried out by the AA.

There have also been previous allegations of Rohingya being used as human shields.

Al Jazeera’s Chowdhury, said the Rohingya were “caught in the middle”.

“They are in a precarious situation,” he said, adding that recent Rohingya refugees who fled Myanmar had told him that both the AA and the military have been trying to recruit them to fight.






It seems there has been a significant escalation recently, news is just coming out.
45000 is a big wave. I think we are gonna have to take them in. Also, exactly what @Jammer is talking about. These AA f**kers are no different. @Isa Khan @Micheal Corleone @yf120 @PutinBro @Bogeyman @Nilgiri @Saithan
In the end they are all ethinic miltias who have loyalty towards their warlord or their own ethnicity. The fact that there is now a massive attempt by western media to whitewash these fucks as "freedom fighters is laughable.i would say the rambo curse will strike again. In rambo 3 they showed the taliban as freedom fighters and that boomeranged badly and in rambo 4 they showed burmese miltia as the freedom fighters so make of it what you can.
 
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