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  1. Yasar_TR

    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    One important aerodynamic reality that needs to be remembered is: Larger wings move more air, so a bird or plane with a large wing area relative to its mass (low wing loading) will have more lift at any given speed. Therefore, a plane with lower wing loading will be able to take off and land at...
  2. Yasar_TR

    TR Propulsion Systems

    Your guess is as good as mine. But reading between the lines it has something to do with a high end jet fighter engine tech using AI. @Nilgiri has given his views on it. I concur with what he says. There are many articles and YouTube news channels that claim that TF35K is in production. One of...
  3. Yasar_TR

    TR Air Defence Programs

    Sungur and Levent missiles are the two very important components of our short range point defence missile systems. Sungur, as well as being man portable, also is pedestal mounted on armoured vehicles for short range point defence. It has a Dual thrust (booster+sustainer) solid rocket engine that...
  4. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    This is TFX Kaan thread. Stay on topic please. Posts containing off topic comments and discussion points that are overtures to derailing the thread are deleted. Insistence will attract bans.
  5. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I suggest you read below page re @Cabatli_TR posts on the matter. https://defencehub.live/threads/propulsion-systems.3/page-140#post-302389 The engine for the TFX has been on the drawing board for many years. Even before 2018. (TR Motor was formed in April 2017) There is a consortium that is...
  6. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    In Turkish we have saying: Çok konuşan çok yanılır. Best explanation of it would be: The half is better than the whole or A moderate approach often yields the best results Having read Dr Temel Kotil’s latest interview about KAAN, it somehow brought this saying in to my mind. Although it is nice...
  7. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    In view of Dr Aksit’s statements, we need to know that TF6K/TF10K engines were going to be used as stepping stones to the bigger engine. It was supposed to physically prove to TEI what was being designed in the computer is now a fact in real life. Logic says that the construction design of TF6K...
  8. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Why should GE claim: quote: Reduced life-cycle cost GE Aerospace’s F414 features the latest technologies to enhance engine performance, improve engine durability, and reduce life-cycle cost (LCC) for current and future operators of next-generation combat aircraft. unquote If the f414 has...
  9. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    During Soviet and subsequent Russian era, the jet engine technology development regarding turbine section, has been concentrated on directionally solidified turbine blade production. They have in house perfected the directionally solidified crystals to their own needs by attaining equiaxed...
  10. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    May I remind all our members that it is our number one duty not to make any unsubstantiated claims. This has nothing to do with just the forum rules. But more to do with where we stand apart from other forums; whereby what is discussed here is correct, relevant and substantiated. Especially on...
  11. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Individual part production expertise, is not a sign of capability of a complete turbofan engine manufacturing. An accomplished engine manufacturer like SNECMA took years before M88-1 engine can be flown. In 1983 the engine project was started. In 1986 the plane was ready to house an engine; but...
  12. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Not quite! On the surface it may look like government created jobs. But those jobs did not produce something that added to national income. You produced that truck with funds taken from taxpayers’ money and handed it out to few jobless. In return you got nothing. It did not generate any revenues...
  13. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I am afraid you are missing a very important point. Let me explain again. - If you buy a truck from abroad for military, that truck stays inert in a warehouse waiting to be used in case of war. But you have used foreign currency reserves to buy it. - If you produce in house a truck for your...
  14. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Latest info was that it passed all system qualification tests and being readied to be delivered to the armed forces. It brings CEP values under 50m for maximum specified ranges. The MDK system is immune to EW and electronic deception. @Kartal1...
  15. Yasar_TR

    TR Aircraft Carrier and Amphibious Ship Programs

    Bro, then you have not looked at the right places. It is readily available as I have found within few minutes. Hürjet’s MTOW was never given. As it is essentially a trainer that resembles KAI-T50 it is logical to assume to be similar to that plane’s. But if we are going to tweak this jet and...
  16. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Yes! There ls that too. If UK and our “diplomats” can get Germany to give the go ahead for the sale within this year, then it would be a viable purchase. Otherwise, if it is dragged out too long, as you have rightly pointed out, it is not going to make much of a difference.
  17. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Let us think that KAAN of today is similar in engine power to F15EX. F15EX in combat configuration at cruising altitude burns around 1800 Gallons of fuel. An F16, in same configuration will use around 700gallons of fuel. But if you start using afterburners and perform difficult manoeuvres, then...
  18. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    These calculations are old if you think July 2019 is too old! That is the time we were kicked out from F35 program. Until we were kicked out, we were in the process of ordering F35 planes. We had not changed our commitment quantities of 100 planes until that date. In fact we were contemplating...
  19. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Prior to our expulsion from F35 program, the idea was to have around 100 F35s in place of F4s, and the TFX were to replace the 240 or so aging F16 jets. Thus giving Turkish armed forces over 350 combatant jets. Irrespective of the timescales given, the total combatant count for the Turkish...
  20. Yasar_TR

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    To add to @boredaf ’s post; it has to be remembered that these are 5th generation planes. They are expensive to keep operational with a much lower operability percentage than 4th generation planes. If we look at hourly flight cost alone of these : A-10 Thunderbolt: $22,531/hour F-16 Fighting...

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